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« on: January 11, 2010, 05:12:34 PM »

As i saying in another topic, i'm testing the 2 inerfaces of both boxes.

i found out that each software has its own +/- points
Maybe it's because there is not hardware connect to it and gives this a wrong image of the products.
its hard to compare on the internet cause most of the site's making use of network traffic, and therefore its hard to see what both boxes are picking op in there own area.

maybe some of you have an answer to some problems .
first off all i find the visibility on both systems a problem
on the sbs1 and RB software there is allmost noting to read/see when zoomed to a specific level.
On the sbs1 all the text is clotted so you can't read any of the labels
On the RB the plains dissapear and get little colored dots (but labels are readeble).
The cure is to zoom to a specific level, but sometimes you want to see just a wider area then you stumble on this problem.
Is there a way to prevent this (i.e. Setup/preference).

Another issue is that comparing the refresh rate of the planes on screen is on the SBS1 faster then on the RB.
Sometimes on the RB it looks like the planes freezing and then start moving again (Could this because there is no hardware connect to it, (all i have is the build in demo)).
Or can this changed in the preference

PS. i'm not intent to bring one of the product's down, i'm only intrested for own perpose so pleas stay objective as possible in the comment Smiley

Thnx. Levi



 
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 07:07:31 PM »

I have both boxes and doing a comparson is not easy, as both software packages have different strengths and weaknesses.  And both receivers perform differently with different build quality and reliability.

I'm taking my time to produce a fair, unbiased comparison.  But I expect the "aficionados" of each solution will attack whatever I produce. Angry
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 10:56:06 PM »

If you are trying the SBS and want to reduce clutter I prefer to only show reg or hex code and all other information I view in the pop up box.
You can also run the SBS in 2 radar mode so you have one zoomed in and one out.
If you dont want to see taking off and landing hange the colour to the same as your background and you will only see the stuff flying over. I think a lot is down to colour setting and preferences.When I first saw Anmer's screen I thought how does he see through that lot but having run my work set up similar to his I find it easy to see what I want.
I have not played with a Radar box for a year so I can not comment on  that one but being so used to the SBS I find it difficult to change to other screens.
Over the last four years I have vistited lots of ATC's and the display is very similar to a standard SBS but with even more traffic dont ask me how those guys do it.
At the end of the day they both work and if you like playing with PC's the SBS has tons of add ons so you can play with the software and the add ons.
There are also some excellent database integrations for the SBS
Gatwick Aviation Society AD and SBS populate
Aerodata Quantum (Not cheap but a very powerful package)
AVDB

Plus more folk will tell you about.

If you want the best from the SBS then 2 or more screens are needed for all the add ons.

Depending where you are we have the SBS day at ML&S on 13/2/2010 come play and see hundreds of other SBS enthusiasts plus see some new goodies from Kinetic

Hope that is of some help

Regards

Chris at ML&S
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 01:48:17 PM »

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Over the last four years I have vistited lots of ATC's and the display is very similar to a standard SBS but with even more traffic dont ask me how those guys do it.

Thnx for the reply.
I get an idea on how its work and that's make it so confusing.
On the forums you can not find many info to compare, what i mean is if there are ss from users, allot have some kind of network turned on.
By the Rb its easy to tell for the network flights have a * behind there callsign (label)
On the SBS you can't tell alltough you can get an idea that there is network trafic involved.
Example, as member of the dutch ATCbox', there you can watch streams of SBS and RB Traffic online.
When i compare the 2 streams (Airnav and SBS) i can't get a clear picture what both boxes can receive without network.
Thats where i'm intrested in, pure and simple what do the receivers on there own.
It would be a great help for me if someone can post 2 SS of both boxes receiving @ the same time in the same condition's whitout network traffic.
In the attacht ss from the SBS stream you can see almost all of holland and a piece fron GB.
Its hard to believe that all this info is from 1 receiver, altough they give none info about it i can only gues that this is network traffic.


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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 02:27:14 PM »

AirNav offers a network sharing option, delayed or realtime (pay more for realtime).  Kinetic doesn't offer a network.  But there are private network solutions available to SBS-1 users.  See the downloads section on Radarspotters.

There are also some websites that let visitors view shared data, fed by both SBS-1 and RadarBox customers.  To me these are like football matches that one watches as opposed to being a player.  One doesn't need a ModeS receiver or software to view these sites and for some this will be fun and cheap.

If one wants control over the presentation, map layout and also maintain a personal database, then a ModeS receiver and software is required (as of today).  To share data, either get a RadarBox and pay for the network or an SBS-1 and join a private (free) network.  Alternatively register for PlanePlotter and share data that way, with or without a ModeS receiver.
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