RadarGadgets....... Mode-S new receiver

[reachspotter]

Has it been tested as a Ground Station with PlanePlotter?

[kdt1]

Off to a good start I see!

[DaveReid]

Has it been tested as a Ground Station with PlanePlotter?

I don't see anything in the spec that would indicate it outputs the type of data that's required for a Ground Station, so I would assume that, like RadarBox, it's not compatible.

[VK2GEL]

Can you please offer an ethernet option?

Trying to avoid having a PC at a remote site. Thanks, and great to see a new product. I wish you well with it. www.qrz.com/db/vk2gel

[satcom]

Can it be used as a PP Ground Station?

No Tom....this is a basic Mode-S receiver , but cant be used as a multilateration Ground Station I'm afraid.

[Brian]

satcom,

Can this new product be used with this military logging website(http://live-military-mode-s.eu/) ?

[DaveReid]

Thanks Dave, I stand corrected...

You're welcome, if you have any other questions just ask.

You may also want to amend the statement on your "About ADS-B" page that says "ADS-B equiped (sic) aircraft transmit this information commonly every 10 seconds automatically, but also in reponse (sic) to an interrogation signal from ground stations such as air traffic control."

ADS-B is a completely separate system from the ATC interrogation upload/download interrogation process.  The latter is mainly concerned with aircraft identity (squawk) and altitude, although it has the ability to download other parameters of interest to ATC such as heading, airspeed, Flight ID, etc (but not position).  ADS-B, on the other hand, doesn't respond to interrogations from ground radar.

No charge for the spellcheck, by the way :-)

[Anmer]

PlanePlotterLite provided by COAA works exclusively with the PlaneGadget-Radar receiver (will not work with other receivers).  It is a light version of the full PlanePlotter software, and if you don't already have a full PlanePlotter license an additional upgrade can be purchased direct from PlanePlotter (www.coaa.co.uk/planeplotter.htm) that gives you access to networking and sharing of aircraft positions. For existing PlanePlotter users a new upgrade will be available in the next couple of days to download.

PlanePlotterLite will only work with PlaneGadget-Radar.

What functional differences are there between PPLite and the free, 21-day PP trial?

Is PPLite (when shipped with PlaneGadget) virtually the same as basic PP without data sharing and extends the 21-day free trial into perpetuity?

So, if anyone wants a demo of PlaneGadget-Radar (PGR), is the 21-day PP trial a good place to start?

[satcom]

PlanePlotterLite provided by COAA works exclusively with the PlaneGadget-Radar receiver (will not work with other receivers).  It is a light version of the full PlanePlotter software, and if you don't already have a full PlanePlotter license an additional upgrade can be purchased direct from PlanePlotter (www.coaa.co.uk/planeplotter.htm) that gives you access to networking and sharing of aircraft positions. For existing PlanePlotter users a new upgrade will be available in the next couple of days to download.

PlanePlotterLite will only work with PlaneGadget-Radar.

What functional differences are there between PPLite and the free, 21-day PP trial?

Is PPLite (when shipped with PlaneGadget) virtually the same as basic PP without data sharing and extends the 21-day free trial into perpetuity?

So, if anyone wants a demo of PlaneGadget-Radar (PGR), is the 21-day PP trial a good place to start?

The first units have arrived and PP users are testing it.

One thing to note....

If you do buy one of these devices , don't run PP Lite if you already have a registered version of Planeplotter installed.
Just download the latest version of PP and you'll   see that in Options there is an interface section for the RadarGadget.

[Anmer]

Thanks satcom.

Didn't answer the question though?

What functional differences are there between PPLite and the free, 21-day PP trial?

Is PPLite (when shipped with PlaneGadget) virtually the same as basic PP without data sharing and extends the 21-day free trial into perpetuity?

[radargadgets]

Thanks satcom.

Didn't answer the question though?

What functional differences are there between PPLite and the free, 21-day PP trial?

Is PPLite (when shipped with PlaneGadget) virtually the same as basic PP without data sharing and extends the 21-day free trial into perpetuity?

Ok I'll try and answer a bunch of these:
Ethernet - No, not going to be an option, we have to draw the line otherwise we just keep adding and end up with at receiver for ?300 instead of ?175(introductory for march)/?199
Mlat - you cant do this with the PlaneGadget-Radar, it requires high resolution timestamping, I think currently you need an SBS for that?
Base station - Hmm One for the planeplotter group this, I think you can sign up  with the small yearly subscription and get access to other peoples mlat data? To be confirmed...
PPLite and Free trial - PPlite doesnt run out, but you can't use it on any other receiver than the PlaneGadget-Radar, so you can't use it as a way to get over the trial period for other receivers   However, the sharing feature is great and you get that if you upgrade.
If you already have PlanePlotter licensed - dont load PlanePlotter Lite as it will overwrite your settings...

Its important to note that the PlaneGadget-Radar can be so low cost because we pass data to be processed onto the extremely capable PlanePlotter.
Effectively standing on the shoulders of the PlanePlotter teams ADS-B decoding knowledge has allowed us to concentrate on delivering a cost effective receiver without the cost of developing these applications.

So many of these ADS-B, mlat, base station etc type questions are in the realm of PlanePlotter.

The PlaneGadget-Radar provide serial packets in the raw to PlanePlotter.

So you will find that many of these in depth usage issues with PlanePlotter features you guys know better than us..

[radargadgets]

PlanePlotterLite provided by COAA works exclusively with the PlaneGadget-Radar receiver (will not work with other receivers).  It is a light version of the full PlanePlotter software, and if you don't already have a full PlanePlotter license an additional upgrade can be purchased direct from PlanePlotter (www.coaa.co.uk/planeplotter.htm) that gives you access to networking and sharing of aircraft positions. For existing PlanePlotter users a new upgrade will be available in the next couple of days to download.

PlanePlotterLite will only work with PlaneGadget-Radar.

What functional differences are there between PPLite and the free, 21-day PP trial?

Is PPLite (when shipped with PlaneGadget) virtually the same as basic PP without data sharing and extends the 21-day free trial into perpetuity?

So, if anyone wants a demo of PlaneGadget-Radar (PGR), is the 21-day PP trial a good place to start?

Yes your right, its a good way of having a preview of PlanePlotter software before you buy.  Of course there are many features that PlanePlotter supports that any one receiver will not. Off the top of my heads for starters theres, ACARS, mlat, audio from an airband unit ...  Its an extensive piece of work so just because a feature is on the menus of PlanePlotter does not mean you get everything.
The PlaneGadget-Radar is exclusively an ADS-B receiver, so you get data from aircraft in ADS-B mode (plus some other modes previously listed).  PlanePlotter can then display this data with its wide range of mapping options and even the new and impressive SkyView that gives you the view of the aircraft as seen looking out to the horizon.

[Anmer]

Thanks Andy.

[Anmer]

One question for clarification.

The PGR website talks a lot about ADS-B messages.

Will the receiver output non-ADS-B ModeS data as well?

I'm not up with the message types, but assume it can receive and decode the same data as the SBS-1 and ANRB?

[radargadgets]

One question for clarification.

The PGR website talks a lot about ADS-B messages.

Will the receiver output non-ADS-B ModeS data as well?

I'm not up with the message types, but assume it can receive and decode the same data as the SBS-1 and ANRB?

I can't say exactly what messages the other boxes receive, but this is the full list of messages seen and decoded by PlanePlotter with the PlaneGadget-Radar

DF17 (sub types 4,11,12,18,19)
DF0,DF4,DF5,DF11,DF20 (partial), DF21 (Partial)


There are a few more that in theory can be decoded bt havn't been observed, so they havn't been included in the above list.

Andy